[mfm-list]What do you think of RED?
Adam Wilt
macfilmmakers@lists.macfilmmakers.com
Sun, 6 Jan 2008 20:16:06 -0800
> A friend and I are establishing a small production company
It does seem to be the thing to do these days, doesn't it? :-)
> I would really like to hear from any one who has had an opportunity
> to use the Red Camera or work with video from it.
I helped on one shoot with Jim Mathers last year, and I have some
clips on my MacBook Pro that I fiddle with now and then.
> Is it worth the money?
$17,500 for the camera head is the cheapest you'll get that sort of
resolution (realistically, around 2.5k) for. Figure on a basic
shooting kit running around $30k, or up to $100k+ with good glass.
You'll need a 1st AC / focus puller on your shoots due to narrow DoF
with the 35mm-sized sensor, too.
The primary question is: what do you plan to shoot with it? It's a
really nice digital cine cam, and it's great for greenscreen, but it
makes a lousy run'n'gun docco cam, news cam, event cam, skateboard
cam, etc.
> Is it reliable?
Nobody knows, yet. Personally, I'm concerned with the flakey mini-
BNCs <http://www.adamwilt.com/ProductionStills/RED%20test%201/
large-10.html?dark>, but the RED folks have blown me off. I figure on
building a bolt-on transition panel with real BNCs and relocated,
normal-sized XLRs if we wind up using REDs.
> Is it as good as the hype
Not possible. Doesn't improve your sex life, fill your cups with mead
and your vaults with gold, drive the stormclouds away, solve the
Middle East's problems, etc. It just makes pictures.
It shoots a nice 4K image with 35mm depth of field and about 2.5k of
resolution (remember, it's a 4k Bayer-mask single sensor). At 2K, you
get higher frame rates, but the image is about a 1.3K image, roughly
as sharp as good DVCPROHD, but not as crisp as an F900, HPX3000, or
even a PMW-EX1. Raw-mode recording is very nice (but watch out for
deBayering time; the first release of REDCINE apparently takes
forever and a day) and Graeme's REDCODE is a very efficient codec.
In mid-September, I and the data wrangler were unimpressed with noise
levels, dynamic range, and highlight handling, but that camera (#30),
like the rest of the first 100, is due for recall and replacement
with versions that supposedly improve on all these factors.
Adam Wilt / filmmaker / Mountain View CA USA